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I don’t know if anyone here has been following the current drama surrounding Trisha Paytas, Shane Dawson, and Jeffree Star but regardless, it’s sent me down a ***fascinating rabbit hole***.
[Jeffree’s chart specifically blows my mind.](https://ibb.co/BtbdPjy) The INTENSE Scorpio stellium and Plutonian energy is next level. I’ve never seen a chart like it. In regards to all the Scorpio, I know Bjork and Katy Perry’s are dominants but Jeffree’s is different. I think his is just more fascinating as a whole due to *how many people* have called him ***pure evil.*** Multiple parts of his chart really seems to show so much in regards to how dangerous of a person he seems. *The obsessions with power.* The Scorpio South Node conjunct Pluto seems extremely unnerving to me.
I just dove into this so I haven’t been able to read into [Shane’s chart](https://ibb.co/KXpv5Jh) or [their synastry](https://ibb.co/MBMqrnt) in depth yet. But just from first glance, that Pluto Square Jupiter aspect being almost exact seems extremely relevant. In the words of ***Astro-Seek***,
>*“Any excesses, eccentricity and reckless behaviour can lead to a crisis. When it happens, you will have to face some moral dilemma. Pluto will try to crush Jupiter´s opinions and Jupiter person will try to stand their ground because of ethical or religious views. This interaction tends to bring to the surface some deep or taboo problem that may concern law or sex.”*What surprised me about this was that it’s Shane’s Pluto that harshly aspects Jeffree’s placements, I had really thought it’d be flipped. Shane’s negative aspects to Jeffree’s Neptune is leading me to think of lies and deception from Jeffree for the sake of power and influence.
Shane, while having many controversies and too many disturbing issues to name, didn’t truly [lose his career](https://www.distractify.com/p/what-did-shane-dawson-do-to-get-canceled) until after becoming close friends and working with Jeffree. [He also lost his closest friendship of 12 years, *Trisha*, due partially to his relationship with him.](https://www.popbuzz.com/internet/youtubers/jeffree-star-trisha-paytas-shane-dawson-drama/) Jeffree Star on the other hand, has had [countless controversies and has done an equally amount of deplorable things, arguably far worse than Shane](https://www.insider.com/jeffree-star-sexual-assault-allegations-violence-accused-predator-myspace-payments-2020-9), yet somehow ***always*** comes out unscathed and succeeding. He’s never truly “canceled”. He still has a widely successful business, rich as all hell, and continues to carry a large fan base. His personal Instagram has 14.1 million followers and his business account has 6.9 million. Trisha recently referred to Jeffree as being like a cult leader and I think it really is fitting. It’s known that many people are afraid of him and it’s been wildly discussed, through his own admissions as well, that he blackmails.
I am in no way fans of Shane, Jeffree, or Trisha, nor am I supporting them. I am just truly fascinated with them as people. Maybe it’s just me, but Jeffree’s chart specifically, along with him and Shane’s synastry, is incredibly interesting. Anyone else intrigued by these charts and their placements? I’m extremely curious, what is your thoughts on this?
##References
– [Shane’s Chart](https://ibb.co/KXpv5Jh) and [Aspects](https://ibb.co/syzr0Gf)
– [Jeffree’s Chart](https://ibb.co/BtbdPjy) and [Aspects](https://ibb.co/8dvQB4H)
– [Their Synastry](https://ibb.co/MBMqrnt) and [Aspects](https://ibb.co/QmYBDzX)
– [Their Composite](https://ibb.co/kJLtSxm) and [Aspects](https://ibb.co/zQXBFv5)^(I have a virgo moon in the 9th and leo mercury in the 8th. My strongest aspect is my mercury trine my sagittarius pluto in the 12th if that explains this post at all lmaooo)
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Jeffree Star & Shane Dawson’s Charts Are WILD
updated 3 years, 8 months ago 1 Member · 13 Replies
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I knew something wasn’t right about Jeffree Star when he said he’s only attracted to straight men. It just seemed abusive to try to convert someone sexually because his needs are more important? Very interesting post!
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I use whole signs. Jeffree has his Scorpio stellium falling in his 12th house, the house of what goes on behind the scenes, the house of hidden circumstances and hidden enemies. This man lives for power and he achieves it through secrets. A mafia boss comes to mind, or a spider weaving invisible webs, waiting for the prey to fly in. Uranus in the 1st alongside the Ruler of the Ascendant being in Aquarius (which squares his Scorpio stuff) speak to his appearance. He is shocking and he loves it. He defines himself by his uniqueness. His claims of being called an “alien” in school and him embracing that makes sense with this configuration. Mercury also being in his 1st speaks to his business acumen, even more so because Mercury is ruling his 10th making career and recognition important to him.
Shane has Moon and Mercury in mutual reception and both are angular. He is an expert at emotionally appealing to others. He can manoeuvre through the emotions of others with skill and precision. Manipulation is easy for him, if he chooses to use it. The Moon in Virgo is ruling his Ascendant and it’s in a tight square to Saturn and Uranus. His self-deprecation and insecurity is written all over this along with the shocking things he says, which he got away with for so long because of his 1st house; the nurturing “grandfather” of Youtube who comes in to heal and support broken Youtuber’s and guide them back to full strength (Cancer Ascendant with Cancer Sun shining from the 1st house, gaining him popularity for those traits).
Edit- they both have Mercury in the 1st, Venus in the 12th, Mars on the Midheaven and the Ruler of the Ascendant in the 3rd house- just some similarities I noticed.
Edit 2- It just hit me- Jupiter square Pluto- nuff said. That aspect is Jeffree to a tee. Jupiter is the Ascendant Ruler making that aspect a dominating force in the chart. Wow.
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Jeffree’s scorpio energy is an insult to Scorpios everywhere. And yes I’m saying this to defend my own stellium and ego with it.
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Jeffree embodies the negative lower expression of Pluto and Scorpio energies. Think he is un-evolved and a dark, lost soul. Instead of thriving on being powerful he could be “power-filled” and help others transform, heal and achieve their potential, but he chooses to tear them down. He looks so hateful, surprised people buy into his shit. Many people have been through difficult things but don’t treat others as he does.
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I saw Jeffrey’s chart and i just know he will end up being king of the world or will loose all his money and power. There’s just no in between. Also he didn’t learn any lesson that life gave him, so he probably will go down. He’s literally making his own hell. There’s no worse person and enemy for him than himself.
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The post I never knew I needed.
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I don’t know all the ins and outs of these guys, but I’m the same age and rising sign as Jeffree (born a few months apart I think) and also have that nodal t-square with Jupiter in 2nd, and Pluto conjunct my SN ???????? … wondering what it means in that generational sense.
Am not a cult leader lol but have felt many times a weird leftover “badness” hanging around in me like I messed up in a past life with being too obsessed with having control over others/friends (Pluto is in my 11th). For jeffree it’s more likely to be wanting absolute control over his career (which is pretty apparent), and going about it in a Martian way, but libra mars/MC will remain popular with it being rather passive and appearing fair and harmonious on the surface when it all may not be.
Also interesting to me is that trine… Jupiter, Chiron, and mars/MC. Could be another reason why Jeffree appears so unscathed after scandals, esp when the points are in 2nd/6th/and at MC. Strong but wounded work life, yet likely rolls with punches well. He kind of makes the drama and wounds work for him. Plus Venus all nestled in there as well will make him appealing in his work and add to the “sweet control” aspects. Iron fist in a velvet glove. Jupiter is also his chart ruler so 2nd house stuff will be a huge focal point for him.
Some pretty strong sextile energy in there too. Also always interesting to find other 1st house Neptune/moon people like myself lol. He can definitely morph and appeal to an audience well in that way and will seem emotionally honest and upfront even if he isn’t and is acting from a glamorous neptunian place of illusion.
Thanks for sharing 🙂
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I have more Scorpio than Jeffree LOL… the way you were talking about how much Scorpio he had I figured it would be a lot more than there actually was…
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This is so spot on! I am shook!
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Jeffree’s chart is interesting in that ruler of sag asc jupiter is in 2nd house conjunct part of fortune. Plus has a kite. He was fated to be rich and successful. A very lucky chart.
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I’ve looked at Shane’s before without a birth time. I’m not sure how accurate the time is. Ignoring houses, Shane was trying to play the nice, caring guy and he does have that capability with Cancer Sun/Mercury. Then you look at the rest of his chart.
Mars is in rulership Aries is very Me Me Me (Aries is the baby of the zodiac). This is a malefic planet, the warrior who wants to do battle and conquer. His Moon is in Libra or Virgo but the big point is either way it’s in opposition to Mars so there’s even more aggressive tendencies and they’re instinctual, they make him feel good and safe, the best defense is a good offense.
Venus in Gemini is clear, he loves to talk, but this is not a great placement for love and it gives a tendency to be uncaring. Air signs can disregard other people’s feelings, and Gemini is The Twins, there’s good twin and a bad twin, and unchecked they can be two faced.
Then Pluto trines his Mercury which in any reading I’d say be careful not to be manipulative in communication because there’s a lot of potential for this…
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It makes sense that they like each other, or used to, they’re water sign, they feel comfortable with each other!
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I kinda pity people who are still hung up on youtube drama topics like these. You can’t talk about how other people “vibrate at a low frequency” when you yourself are immersed in the youtube drama world. Like, your only posts are about youtube drama.
