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    Arianna
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    wondering how this would work out seeing how chiron is a sign of trauma and 12th h is a house about loss and suffering!

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     Arianna updated 2 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
  • Badcatgoodcat

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    November 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    As it has already been pointed out, the 12th house is not really the house of “loss.” It is however considered the house of “sorrow” and sacrifice amongst many, many other things. Those are just a couple of life’s experiences attributed to the 12th house. Loss would be indicated in a multitude of ways across the chart and it certainly could involve the 12th house, if crime occurred, because the 12th also rules the underworld, but losses of different kinds appear in different houses. For instance, the 11th house is not only your social sector of friendship and community, but it’s also the house of sudden gains and falls. This can be extended to community resources/money and your reputation/status within your social house. Your 8th house governs transformation and death, literal and figurative.

    Your 12th house governs many things- the subconscious, intuition, dreams, hospitals and institutions, hidden enemies, secrets, crime (not the law, but many law enforcement *officers* will have Libra at the cusp) the underworld, the past- our repressed and buried memories/unconscious associations that influence cycles in our lives, it is the house of our undoings because it is the house of the things we hide from ourselves and others, which may result in our fall when they come to light, in addition to all the ways unconscious behavior patterns control our lives.

    Your 12th house is perceived as a solitary experience, but as you relate to the whole of humanity and particularly along the 12th/6th house service axis. It is a karmic house and represents the end of cycles and it would take far too much room and too long to explain it fully.

    Of course, you have to factor in the lens of signs, rulership, additional planets and aspects to really understand how your Chiron in the 12th house performs. There needs to be so much more information, but on a surface level this would likely pertain to wounds that have been suppressed, or have not been unpacked properly, and perhaps continue to manifest in your life in unconscious ways, depending on other aspects.

    If Chiron is positively aspected- making a trine to the Sun or Jupiter it’s more likely you are aware of this wound and have addressed it in some constructive way; and Chiron represents wounds that affected you on deep psychological levels that you may choose to keep otherwise private.

    Again, it largely depends on other indicators in your chart.

  • AstrologerSara

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    November 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    **In the twelfth house or conjunction with Neptune**

    You can have a medical or psychological problems. However, you are a very good doctor and a helper to others. The truth is, sometimes you are too closed, suffering deep inside themselves for their personal problems. You can also have a big secret, which would be difficult to reveal to others. However, you are fluent in helping others with severe emotional problems. It is very important spiritual world for you, you are interesting in esoteric and other mysterious things. You are a good beauty or art expert. More: [Effect of Chiron in Astrology](https://freehoroscopesastrology.weebly.com/blog/effect-of-chiron-in-astrology)

  • Active_Doctor

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    November 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    The most obvious first thought to me would be that you have perhaps repressed painful memories, buried pain in your subconscious.
    Maybe through your life you will find yourself digging up repressed shit and through your own experiences be able to help others deal with their repressed shit.

    The 12th also represents confinement/imprisonment, subconscious… to blend these with the idea of self undoing, maybe chiron in the 12th could represent subconscious restrictions we carry, illusions about ourselves or about the world, or what is important or what is right or wrong, self defeating inner beliefs that we hold either from early in this life or carry over from a previous life.

    The meaning would be coloured by the sign it’s in, right, and if there is anything conjuncting chiron (I’d check other aspects too & what’s involved in those -what & from what house & sign), and if chiron sits near the ASC it might have a different nature than it it were further back into the 12th.

  • [deleted]

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    November 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    It’s not a popular opinion, but as Chiron is an extremely minor body (as with all asteroids), I would not read too much into it alone. A lot of modern astrologers have latched onto it as an archetype really hard but I’ve always had trouble connecting it to the rest of the chart in readings. Chiron, as you say, is associated with heavy trauma and the “wounded healer” archetype; but not everybody has extreme trauma, and yet everybody has a Chiron placement.

    I would suggest only taking Chiron heavily into consideration if it has a close aspect to a light (within two degrees) or closely conjuncts a planet in the same degree range. Otherwise I don’t think it has the power within itself to manifest heavily – this is the rule of thumb for asteroids as a whole, although Chiron gets special treatment.

    Also worth noting, as Badcatgoodcat has said, that the twelfth house is more than just suffering; it is the collective unconscious, it is vulnerability, etc. It is generally a painful, wounded house, but it is also a wise one.

  • halluc1nations

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    November 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    I have progressed Chiron and sun in the 12th. They are forming an applying conjunction. Also progressed Mars is moving into the 12th house from the 1st (my prog ascendant will eclipse it soon)

  • Cute-Abroad-1912

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    November 1, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    Chiron in Aries (3° Ari 19′)
    Chiron in the Twelfth House

    thoughts

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