Immorality/Degeneration/Corruption in natal chart?

[Charles]

What are the major signifiers of moral/ethical problems and degeneration in natal chart? Any specific planets and houses dealing with these matters? Note, I do not mean mental health or legal stuff but rather behavior that is heavily criticized under social, familial, religious norms and such.

Discussion

[SomeArcher77]

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[Environmental_Age0]

Well badly placed /aspected any sign and any planet for specific things. Badly placed mercury with squares to Neptunes often make guiltless liars (Donald trump and his lawyer who was in jail cause of him have a strong Mercury Square Neptune aspect) Anybody over activating and misusing their Mars/Pluto Aries/Scorpio energy would be immoral sexually and physically, blood Thursty, violent even. A lot of Scorpio ascendants are very ethically dumb/cruel and lie/use/abuse people. Scorpio has domain over sex, transformation, healing but in my experience most Scorpio Ascendants like to harm and exploit/degrade others. They often identify (ascendant) with the bad scary nightmare archetype (Scorpio) and thus act accordingly. Badly placed Venus.. I mean you need to ask more specific questions? Because degradation and evil can occur in many different areas and places. Is it the mind? Mercury/Gemini/third house has domain over the mind, Moon/cancer/fourth house is the emotions, sun/Leo/fifth is the ego, Mars/Aries/1st house is the physical drive/sex drive in physical way Scorpio/Pluto/eighth house is sex drive in manipulative, transformative, emotional way. Like Venus (planet of love) in Scorpio (manipulation/transformation/death) can give a chart holder a love of mean manipulative types so that one acts that way themselves… you need to be more specific. Jupiter in Gemini is common in unethical liars though as they are often too changeable and cerebral and often selfish rather than wise (Jupiter is Sagatarias’s Natural Placement) but it depends some souls with Jupiter in Gemini are very ethical, Bernie Sanders. Unethical in terms of what? What ways? Heavily criticized religious norms sounds like Jupiter/Sagatarias/9th House Challenges. Jupiter is the planet of religion/faith/hope/optimism/belief. Sagatarias gives those things to any planet it visits. Moon in Sagatarias people are often deeply nurtured (moon) by religion and faith (Sagatarias). I’d say rejection of religion or belief would be some conflict in chart with Jupiter, sag or 9th house placements either at final degrees or squaring Neptune/Chiron/Virgo/Pisces. Maybe even oppose Gemini/third house/Mercury