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What you use in your personal life is your business. We respect that.
It is reckless and irresponsible to recommend psychedelics and other substances to users in posts here. What you recommend to a user in a pm or in a chat is on you.
There have been some very disturbing comments made to dying and suicidal users on this sub.
You do not know their medical history. You do not know their mental or emotional state. You do not know anything about them, As we have seen recently in the United States, people urging one behavior or life choice or another over text and on media, are being held responsible for the things they urge others to do, flippantly, carelessly and without careful thought.
The comments will be removed and the user making the recommendations to ill or dying users, may be banned with warnings made first.
Update: So far no one has been banned for comments about substances use. The comments have merely been removed. In two cases because the entire discussion became dosage and supply related, the entire posts were removed.
We do try to advise users, i.e., warn. We will look at each post and comment carefully, as always. We do read every comment on every post.
Bear with us, Someone has to take a stand and take initiative. Today, it is the mods.
Yes. I broke my glasses. My spelling on mobile was terrible.
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Mod Post: Your Personal Choices are Yours. Do not Recommend Substances to Users Here
updated 2 years, 2 months ago
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Psychedelic drugs are central to the history of spirituality and connecting/speaking with the spirit realm. Sorry not sorry, it’s literally just history. Look up the history of eating DMT in indigenous tribes.
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Why not just specify to lead with your experience and not pressuring someone to use something?
Like, I don’t do anything but weed and never will do anything other than weed, but I still see the obvious issues in 1. Taking responsibility away from the individual making the choice to use and 2. not allowing people to speak about their experiences.
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I am with OP on this one. Discovering if a substance helps you or not is a personal journey, there’s very little need for a push by others. I’d rather not invite the idea into their head if its not something they’re already bringing up. Even then I wont join in on glorifying it. In order for balance and harmony almost nothing can be glorified.
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Ban me for saying this, but you really have NO IDEA what you are talking about. It is actually more risky to claim to be a medium or be a medium and try to give people who are suicidal advice on spirituality, life and their own circumstances.
You do not know their medical history – they could have a mental illness and be delusional. I have seen people on here address concerning thoughts/opinions of people who are clearly sick and call “the way of the medium”.
You do not know their mental or emotional state – it is merely impossible to wizard your way into that.
You do not know anything about them – or the multiple future paths that they may take.
More people have taken their lives in the name of an afterlife than actually experiencing a psychedelic drug.
It can not be suggested that psychedelics is the cause of someone’s death. You are putting the blame on innocent people. Addressing issues of depression, addiction and questioning life are reasons to why most people end up doing psychedelics anyway. Studies show that psychedelics release chemicals in the brain that can heal traumatic injury and allow others to understand the process of being human. It is MEDICALLY PROVEN and if you are going to not allow that in this sub, then SHUT IT DOWN because you are ridden with control and power. YOU are the one that is missing the point.
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> ***There have been some very disturbing comments made to dying and suicidal users on this sub.***
In the context of suicide I agree I think it’s irresponsible to tell someone who is already emotionally unstable (and in a bad place) to take a substance that may make them more unstable. It would be like suggesting someone go out and binge drink. It’s not wise.
Does that mean psychedelics are harmful? No, not necessarily but its my understanding that with in indigenous cultures they were typically used inside of a tradition. As far as I know recreational use wasn’t promoted without someone (a shaman or medicine person) guiding the experience. Using those plant medicines outside of “ceremony” was typically frowned upon. When psychedelics are used in western medicine, they are used in controlled environments where someone outside the situation can watch the person.
I think this is the nuance of the conversation being missed in this post. The point here is safety for those who need mental help. Not that various substances are bad.
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This is bulshit. Please ban me. The whole point of reddit is for people to share information. Obviously people should do their own homework before using a substance. There’s nothing wrong with sharing the information that substances exist that can help people. And to not share it with someone in distress who feels like they are out of options is wrong. I hope you know you have blood on your hands.
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A HARD stance that deviates powerfully from internet norms, and I must say I approve completely. When the norms are wildly unhealthy they can be given no quarter.
I’ve been making an effort to stop treating the internet like a game but a stance this hard does require me to step up a bit.
But I’m down.
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Cannot believe the statement,”No, pressuring other to do illegal substances and drugs is not ok.” Is suddenly controversial
