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What will the effect of Saturn in Pisces be for people with major mutable placements?
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I have this placement and will obviously be entering my Saturn return soon. My age is the very tail end of the Millennials, so we have the last few of that gen getting their Saturn return.
Maybe there will be a shift in perspective from this cohort regarding how we view our spiritual structures. Maybe a return to reviewing religious identification and how that looks NOW.
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I have a Pisces stellium in my first house (mars, Saturn, sun, ascendant, Venus). For me it’s gonna be graduating from grad school, starting my career for the first time, and making real money from a job for the first time (I have Saturn-conjunct-mars in Pisces 1st house, with a mars-ruled 2nd and 9th house). I think since it’s also in my first house with Asc/Venus I think there could also be relationship stuff coming up for me. Because Pisces is so much of my identity, I think these parts of my life have been pretty amorphous up until now (deeply difficult for my Saturn-ruled cap moon & aqua mercury!!!) and I think I’m finally going to begin to be able to see the results of the structure I’ve been working almost my whole life to build for myself. Hope this helps— this is just my interpretation!
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It’s important to remember that this Saturn in Pisces transit isn’t just about Saturn. For almost the entire transit, _and_ the subsequent Saturn in Aries transit, Saturn will be **co-present with Neptune**.
So whatever Saturn themes you’re thinking about will be co-mingled with Neptune themes this time around, with many possible implications.
I started up a post a couple days ago on this topic over at /r/advancedastrology, fwiw; you can find that [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/Advancedastrology/comments/x6uaac/can_we_talk_about_the_multiyear_saturnneptune/).
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It will depend on the placement and condition/dignity of those major mutable placements. I’ve always had trouble with Saturn in Pisces because on the one hand, you have the dissolution of structure/boundary, but you could also make the case that Saturn brings order/structure to something that’s usually amorphous. Maybe it depends on the aspect that Saturn will make to said planet and the weight/strength of it. I feel like a Saturn/Mercury aspect (with Saturn as the winner) will feel different than a Saturn/Mars, Saturn/Jupiter, etc. match up. In any case, I feel like the theme of isolation/distillation comes up a lot, whether this is going out on your own to do something (perhaps forcibly), a coming to reality/realization. You have the planet of structure, order, rules, lessons, in the sign of… well, disorder, blurriness, fluidity, intuition, compassion, even surrender or sacrifice. Take with these what you will.
I’m expecting major shifts, with a 4 planet stellium in early 7th whole-sign house Sagittarius (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Pluto) and a 3 planet stellium (Venus, Mars, Jupiter) later in the same sign. It’s all gonna square, and this is two big doses of square (and actually if it retrogrades, it goes back over the later stellium), but it is already squaring the later stellium natally. Saturn is in my 10th house at 17’59” Pisces. Something career/public image related (related to the 7th house–and the eighth house by extension, where I have Neptune and Uranus) where most of the activity will be for me), for sure, but I’m not quite clear how that might play out yet. Much to think about!
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I have a 4 planet stellium in my 11th, Saturn, Mercury, Sun, and Mars in Pisces. Just living with that I’ve had a lot of issues with friends and boundaries, and even in communities I was a part of. Constantly taken advantage of or bullied by certain “friends.”
Saturn rules discipline, order, and duty and Pisces is very boundless and mystical. Having that dichotomy is hard and sometimes it’s difficult to find in myself where my boundaries were in my mundane life. Sometimes I couldn’t figure them out until looking back in retrospect. Sure, I have regrets and wish I stood up for myself more, but I think I had to learn those lessons for the future.
I imagine Saturn will be restructuring whatever house it is in a way where people are going to be looking at that, where there boundaries are. It could also bring spiritual matters into someone’s life, and maybe working on discipline and structure in that way. Really depends on the house Saturn is in, and that will tell you the general theme you will be getting and also the dignity and planets aspecting it.
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Squares, oppositions and conjunctions will be felt when the orb is within 3 degrees or less of those mutable placements. It’s always going to affect the house of Pisces in your chart, but its effect will be stronger if it’s also a profection year.
Saturn causes delays and hard lessons to force growth and strengthen character, which might be a good wake-up call for those of us with heavier mutable charts
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Hitting my NN and Juno in the 3rd house. I have some deception issues regarding relationships; hopefully it gives me clearance as am a brainfogger in relationships, something with rose colored glasses lol
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Anyone have any insight into how it could affect venus and mars in 4h?
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Gonna be crossing my asc @ 28° – kinda scared
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I hope more people join in on this conversation because I’m learning about final dispositors, and it seems that both Saturn and Venus are that for me, with Jupiter as my chart ruler. My natal Venus is in my 4th house in Pisces, and along with Uranus is my only water placement. Venus is a massive player in my chart, and considering the themes…I’m really curious what this time is going to bring for me, looking forward to more insight into this!
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Pisces is my 7th house. Does anyone know what happens when Saturn transits your 7th?! I don’t have any placements there but it will go opposite my Chiron in 1st 🥺 eventually
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I’ve been looking at Saturn’s journey through Pisces too. It seems like it almost leads the way as we really go through a major shift in the collective energy.
Not too long after this, we go through a period where all of the outer planets transition signs. Most of it happens while the North Node is in Pisces too.
– Nov 19, 2024 Pluto enters Aquarius to stay
– Jan 12, 2025 North Node enters Pisces
– Mar 30, 2025 Neptune enters Aries
– May 24, 2025 Saturn enters Aries
– July 7, 2025 Uranus enters Gemini
– Sep 1, 2025 Saturn Rx back to Pisces
– Oct 22, 2025 Neptune Rx back to Pisces
– Nov 7, 2025 Uranus Rx back to Taurus
– Jan 26, 2026 Neptune enters Aries to stay
– Feb 14, 2026 Saturn enters Aries to stay
– Apr 26, 2026 Uranus enters Gemini to stay
– July 28, 2026 North Node enters AquariusNeptune and Saturn are within 10 degrees of each other from end of Jan 2025 – end of June 2026.
With all these shifts taking place while the NN is in Pisces, I’m hoping this plays out nicely for the collective. NN ruler, Jupiter will be in cancer for part of this transit, so we also have that in our favor.
I think it will affect everyone differently, depending on their own personal charts. But it will be interesting to see how all this Pisces energy will plays out for the collective.
It’s also interesting to think about the babies born during this time. Some of them will have Neptune, Saturn and the North Node all in Pisces. Way down the line, when they go through their Saturn returns, Pluto will also be in Pisces.
Idk if I’m feeling this Mercury retrograde already lol but I tried to make a post about this and couldn’t get it posted.
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My chart is mainly cardinal, but I have Scorpio Rising, Cancer Moon 9H, Pisces Venus 5H, and Pisces Saturn 5H. This year I have been feeling very emotional like I have no control over my emotions and spiritual. It’s pretty overwhelming, but I got a handle over my emotions for the most part now. Maybe that will be a theme.
My plans for that time period is leveling up in my career and creative online business. Frustrated I’m nowhere near where I want to be for the past few years. Hoping I start seeing some great change during my Saturn Return when it comes to my finances.
